zebthecat
2:40 Thu Jun 27
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Kaiser Zoso 2:06 Thu Jun 27
You'd be surprised.
I am a bass player and can but a surprising amount can't.
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BRANDED
2:17 Thu Jun 27
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Zoso
BTW do you think Come Together would be the track it is without the bass part?
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BRANDED
2:12 Thu Jun 27
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It would depend on if you like bass players and what they bring to the music. It took six months for Bootsy to get his mojo with JB redefining the whole sound of JBs band and sound from drums to bass.
admittedly I'll give you Ob la di, ob-la-da as a great faux Caribbean bass line
:)
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Kaiser Zoso
2:06 Thu Jun 27
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Yes, precisely. That’s my point
Laying down a groove should hardly be beyond any competent bass player. Assessing levels of greatness with only that as a measure doesn’t seem majorly worthwhile
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BRANDED
2:04 Thu Jun 27
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Exceptionally successful artist in the 60s and 70s when pop music exploded. No one can possibly dispute that.
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BRANDED
2:01 Thu Jun 27
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He has dabbled a tiny bit in Jazz but its not his forte. Laying down a solid groove is exactly what a great bass player does. without it the tracks would literally not exist. When mixing a track with bass you nearly always build around the bass.
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Passerby66
2:00 Thu Jun 27
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Branded originally stated that McCartney was "a decent musician but not exceptional".
Yet here we are now discussing whether or not he is one of the greatest bass players of all time and he will not even be remembered for being a bass player but will be remembered for begin a songwriter who also happened to play bass.
The point that I am making is that his secondary talent (bass) is still good enough to have him in the discussion of "was he one of the greatest bass players of all time?" Surely that shows that he was an exceptional musician.
The add in the fact that he has had 19 US number 1 albums with the Beatles and another 8 number one albums with Wings and a solo artist giving him 27. Jay-Z is in second play with 14 which means he has had nearly twice as many number one US albums as his nearest rival. That says statistically an exceptional musician and not just "decent".
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Kaiser Zoso
1:59 Thu Jun 27
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I don’t see great bassists in pop music as all they’re allowed to do is lay down the timing and b line for a track. Like saying who’s greatest at painting a front room, the distinctions not great enough to allow comparisons.
If it’s jazz it’s a different story, but McCartney doesn’t play jazz to my knowledge, so IMO he’s as competent as the next pop bass player
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Leonard Hatred
1:58 Thu Jun 27
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McCartney is an excellent bass player.
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BRANDED
1:57 Thu Jun 27
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My mates would never rave about me you silly fool. However, we all rave about musicians we admire.
What was the criteria for the bassplayer.com list?
What is each candidate’s degree of lasting influence? What is their impact on the role of the bass? Does the average music fan know any of their bass lines? How innovative was the player’s technique, sound, and gear? And, in the context of their era, how impressive was their technical prowess? We limited candidates to non-classical players with careers after 1900 (sorry, Domenico Dragonetti). We also skipped keyboardists with awesome left hands, which meant no Stevie Wonder, Greg Phillinganes, Bernie Worrell, or Herbie Hancock. Last, we omitted part-time bassists such as Prince, Sly Stone, Ronnie Wood, and Shuggie Otis, who occasionally threw down killer bass parts. With those parameters in place, we got down to making our picks, bringing in BP folks present and past: current staffers Chris Jisi, E.E. Bradman, Jonathan Herrera, Karl Coryat, and Jon D’Auria; former editors Jim Roberts, Richard Johnston, Bill Leigh, and Brian Fox; and longtime writers Ed Friedland, John Goldsby, Freddy Villano, and Rick Suchow
Fair play. Tells you something about those staffers I guess.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:46 Thu Jun 27
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Really? Except for the voters on BassPlayer.com who I imagine know a thing or two about bass-playing.
Against that empirical evidence we have the assertions of a known Walter Mitty that he's never heard his mates raving about him.
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BRANDED
1:44 Thu Jun 27
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BTW if you like a bird playing a bass try Tal Wilkenfeld
https://youtu.be/P6v9B3ytxB0?t=648
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BRANDED
1:38 Thu Jun 27
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Yeah. But, I've been around bass players all my life and no one raved about or tried to imitate Macca. Admittedly I never knew many boy bands.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:36 Thu Jun 27
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yeah, I already gave you Jamerson.
All those jazzers and Bootsie imitators can fuck off. Bootsie, yes, Bernard Edwards maybe. Since you know fuck all about bass, I'll give you Danny Thompson and Carole Kaye - maybe.
Mark King lollllzzz.. Pino's OK, but I don't see that one great bass intro for Paul Young and 30 years of John Entwistle impersonations makes him better than McCartney, who is hugely versatile - Come Together, Yesterday and Helter Skelter being three extraordinarily good and diverse examples.
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BRANDED
1:16 Thu Jun 27
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Would you say that a multi millionaire loaning a studio is a big deal? I wouldnt but if it results in great art then good for him. My experience of artists is that they mostly want to help others to succeed if at all possible.
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BRANDED
1:14 Thu Jun 27
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OK
James Jamerson: MOTOWN
Jaco Pastorius: Bridged the fretted and upright bass world and was a genius
Larry Graham,Chuck Rainey,Bootsy Collins,Verdine White, Louis Johnson,Nathan East,Abraham Laboriel,Andrew Gouché,Bernard Edwards, Victor Bailey,Mark King,Thundercat,Ron Baker: for being funky
The upright players speak for themselves
Marcus Miller for defining the slap sound more than anyone else
Pino Palladino: Literally everyone raved about him when I was young
etc etc etc
HOWEVER. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT CUNTS so if you want to start a bass player and their tracks thread by all means do
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Far East Hammer
1:05 Thu Jun 27
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Little known McCartney fact:
He loaned a 24-track recording/mixing deck to "Sleazy" Pete Christopherson just after Pete had designed an album cover for him.
That was what Throbbing Gristle used to record their Twenty Jazz Funk Greats album on
Much as McCartney's one of those people I'd like to dislike, from everything I've read about him, he's actually a nice bloke and not a cunt.
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Alwaysaniron
12:49 Thu Jun 27
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I don't know if I think he's a cunt I do know he cant cunting sing!
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White Pony
12:46 Thu Jun 27
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*waits for someone to rave on about Flea*
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:31 Thu Jun 27
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Which ones specifically, Branded?
I'll give you John Entwistle, Duck Dunn and James Jamerson to get you started. Then we can talk about technique and particular tracks and stuff
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zebthecat
11:48 Thu Jun 27
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A guy | know works as a lighting rigger and did a tour with Paul McCartney. Apparently Paul is very down to earth and friendly and like a pre-gig spliff and a chat with the crew.
His musical breadth is surprising. The stuff he did with Youth as The Fireman is really good trippy ambient.
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